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Re:Masters: Lucinda Williams

The alt-country icon and masterful songwriter confirms the sweeter outlook behind her rocking new album, 'Little Honey'

By Alan Light
Special to MSN Music

"It's like everybody knows me now," says Lucinda Williams, "and I see them following this story like a documentary -- 'She's come out of the dark hell, and she burst through and came out on top! She hasn't gone down a hole, but she found her soul mate and a band she loves!'"

And that, in a nutshell, is the story of her latest album, the eclectic, welcoming "Little Honey" (read review). Though, as Williams discusses in this interview, the whole project isn't happy-go-lucky. It does reflect the contentment she has found with her fiancé, music executive Tom Overby (also her manager and the album's co-producer). After years of personal and professional struggles established her as the poster girl for troubled artists everywhere, the 55-year-old Williams has made peace with the world -- though a new digital-only EP of protest songs, titled "Lu in '08," shows that she's still going down swinging.

The sound of "Little Honey" ranges from the honky-tonk name-calling of "Jailhouse Tears," a raucous duet with Elvis Costello, to the snarling blues of "Honey Bee." A closing cover of AC/DC's "It's a Long Way to the Top" echoes the perils of the rock-'n'-roll lifestyle she addresses in "Little Rock Star" and "Rarity." Williams rediscovered, and completed, two songs she started decades ago: the lovely, yearning "Circles and X's" and "If Wishes Were Horses."

After "Car Wheels on a Gravel Road" elevated her to songwriting royalty in 1998, Williams has been reluctant to repeat herself. She explored simpler, sparser language on "Essence" (2001), and went deeper into rock and even hip-hop styles on "World Without Tears" (2003). With "Little Honey," she revisits the range of influences, and the signature craft of her compositions, that first made listeners stand up and take notice.

"I took some risks with the albums since 'Car Wheels,'" she says. "Nothing damaging, but I know some fans go 'Huh? What?' By now, everybody realizes that I'm not just a country artist. I'm given permission to do what I want to do. But I've also shown fans that I'm not gonna abandon my roots, and I never have. And this album tells that whole story."

MSN Music: The general response to "Little Honey" is that this is the "happy Lucinda" album. Is that how you see it?

Lucinda Williams: I don't really think in terms of happy and sad, but I guess there are a couple of more upbeat songs that would qualify as happy. There are still some darker songs, though. But I think that because I'm in a great place in my life -- you can just sense it. There's a liveliness to it all, a feeling of letting my hair down. I think my confidence shows, my maturity and wisdom -- all the positive things come across in the general ambience of the album.

This album is being held up as a contrast to the downbeat tone of last year's "West" album. However, many of these songs were written at the same time as the "West" songs, weren't they?

It's kind of ironic, because this album really could be called "West, Volume 2."

Almost all the songs here had been written before "West," and had been ready to put on that album. But there wasn't enough room, and we were running out of time and money and we had to narrow down to the best songs we had at the time.

I actually wanted to put them all out and not have anything left over -- to close the door to that chapter and move on, and have the new record be all new songs. I thought it would be a challenge to find the emotion when we went back to these songs, but I got a new band, and we re-cut all of them, started fresh and it all worked out.

The other theme people are noticing is that you used to take so long between releases, but lately, you've been putting out an album every year or so. Do you feel a change in your writing or recording process?

When I went in to do "West," it was the first time I had that many songs, the first time I had songs left over. Who's to say why that happened. Other than that, I'd been through the most traumatic event of my entire life: the death of my mother. That's the only thing I can point to to explain all these songs tumbling out. That started this flood, opened the floodgates.

And it wasn't only my mom's death. There was splintering between my siblings out of that, and a relationship with a guy who had drug and alcohol issues and was emotionally abusive, all while my mother was dying. So when that was done, I was free physically, and I was dealing with all this pain -- and starting to demo songs.

Also, being in the studio now seems to inspire me to write -- at night, after we're done, or in the morning before we start. That's not something that was common to me. It happened again this time. "Little Rock Star" and "Plan to Marry" started in the studio during the recording of the album. Hopefully, that will continue, but who knows?

Last year, you did a series of concerts in New York and Los Angeles at which you played all your previous albums straight through, one album per night. What did you take away from that experience? What did you discover about the evolution of your work?

That I've become a much better writer, which I'm real pleased about. It's certainly the way it should be. But it's good to go look at the early material. Everybody has their favorite songs, and some are my earliest songs. And I kinda wanted to look at that and see if I could figure out why, what is it about those songs? So I was analyzing my whole circle of albums, and how I branched out and tried different things.

The moment that catapulted me was when Laura Cantrell recorded this song "Letters" on her album. I probably wrote that song 30 years ago. It's never been released, never even been published. It was on a demo tape that she got a copy of from a mutual friend of ours. And she sent me the advance, and I was completely floored. I would never have thought of recording that song, and I went, "Wow, this is a sign of something. I need to review these songs."

Artistically, it can be hard to go back and get into an early song if I just don't feel it's good enough, but it's an important thing to do.

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