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The alternate version of "Clocks" -- I didn't even know we had any
alternates, we did that record (her obscure 1970 debut, "Gliding Bird") so fast. And the song "Falling in a Deep
Hole," I still don't remember when and where I recorded that. I knew it had to
be in my Washington years, when I came back to stay with my family and raise my
daughter, and there was this wonderful couple (Bill and Taffy Danoff) who helped
me on the club scene, and that was one of their songs. At first, I didn't even
recognize it, it was just vaguely familiar. I still don't know where James even
found it. Even after they told me what it was, I still wasn't sure. Is that
terrible?
"The outtakes from "Trio" are just stunning. I made a copy of
one of those songs for my mother, and she was literally the only person who had
it."
--Emmylou Harris
So it's great to be able to -- I hate to use the word, but to be able to
share those things. It was a good opportunity to gather things that were very
special, but not attached to any of the solo releases. There's really so much to
choose from, I could almost put out another volume!
As you listened to all of these songs, what did you hear changing in
your own voice? How do you think your actual singing has evolved?
I don't know if I really hear much that's different. Each record was such a
steppingstone, one album followed another followed another. Even something like
"Wrecking Ball," which for some people was so jarring -- I had
a lot of those songs on tapes that I kept of songs that I wanted to record
sometime. Then we went in with Dan (Lanois) and Malcolm (Burn, engineer) and it took on
that sound, which seemed to shock some people, but it just energized me. It
seemed like such a natural progression. But it's hard for me to be objective
about those things, because I'm at the center of it.
So on the first two discs, these are songs I had chosen for my solo work,
where a lot of the rest are things that people asked me to do. With the
tributes, it's like you're given a homework assignment, though you do have to
get very involved. The "Jesse James" stuff already existed, and I was chosen to
play a dramatic role, so to speak, and those two songs were designated for me.
It's all part of the musical journey. A lot of it is about responding to other
musicians and other ideas. I love the collaborative part -- even on your own
records, you don't ever work in a vacuum.
A few of your collaborations with Gram Parsons come at the top of the
first disc. What did you take from your work with Gram that stayed with you in
the years that followed?
Well, there's a jarring difference from "Clocks" -- where I was really a Joan Baez/Joni Mitchell wannabe -- to the song that comes next (Parsons' version of the Louvin Brothers' "The Angels Rejoiced Last Night"). I had
never played with a band before, or with a drummer. Singing with Gram really
honed my voice, helped me to counteract the sweetness but still keep it in
there. And not being at the center, in the spotlight, I think that helped me
find my own solo voice -- of course, I would have had to find it after Gram died
anyway.
But with Gram, I found that I loved playing with a band, that I loved that
country music of the Louvin Brothers, loved singing harmony. But since I came to
music as a folksinger, that was always still in me, too. It was almost like the
big bang, when everything really started for me as a vocalist and as a stylist.
Were you aware at the time that it was such a transformative
influence?
It's a very natural, very blessed thing -- you don't think about it, you just
know that you've found the place in the world where you're supposed to be. You
always carry those moments with you, those things that change you forever. And
then as I went on to work with all these other amazing musicians, it was a very
creative time. It built my confidence up, I learned to trust my instincts and
learned how to make records. In that protective, creative environment, I was
able to continue the process of becoming a singer. Remember, most of my work is
as an interpreter; only recently have people taken me seriously as a songwriter,
though I did write before on (1984's) "Ballad of Sally Rose" album.
Why didn't you explore your songwriting more actively earlier in your
career?
There were always lots of songs out there that I wanted to sing, and there
weren't many people covering those songs. I was one of the first to hear Rodney Crowell's songs, I heard Townes Van Zandt when he was still relatively unknown outside
of a certain literary following. So I had these writers -- that was brand-new,
incredible stuff, and it was like striking your own vein of gold.
Gram was among the first to explore connections between country music
and rock and folk, and to break those barriers down a bit. How do you think the
relationship between the genres seems at this point?
It's kind of an odd situation with -- I suppose they call it "Americana" now.
I'm not saying that Gram is totally responsible for that music, but he was
certainly right there, bringing those things together, before other people were.
So now you have people like Gillian Welch and David Rawlings, Buddy Miller, Steve Earle, all mixed in with Townes and Guy (Clark), and you don't hear a lot of that influence on
mainstream country radio. In fact, it was really because of the lack of interest
in the "Cowgirl's Prayer" album, which was more traditional, that I
felt I could go farther out in left field with "Wrecking Ball."
Still, though, I think it's pretty healthy, with the Internet and satellite
radio. You don't have to be on top 40 radio for people to hear you. "O Brother,
Where Art Thou?" sold millions of copies and won all those Grammys, and it got
hardly any airplay on country radio. But you have to be positive -- a lot of
people who had never heard bluegrass bought that record and heard Ralph Stanley,
which has to be a good thing, and then went deeper into it and discovered this
incredibly rich vein of music, which you're not gonna hear unless you're
listening to your local NPR station on Sunday morning. The point being that the
music is actually available now -- before, you had to go find the Japanese
imports!
Mainstream country radio is poorer for not playing this stuff, but I also
understand the engine of top 40, and it's always going to be there. It's not new
and it's not going to go away. And I think we're in a lot healthier situation
because of these new formats, and even music that gets onto soundtracks. There's
a much more expansive, well-educated, more open audience out there. You're not
just gonna hear one kind of music on their iPods.
As "Songbird" makes clear, in recent years you've become known as
much for your harmony singing and accompaniment as for your solo work. Do you
have a different approach, a different plan of attack, whether you're singing
for your own session or singing alongside someone else?
I don't approach it differently. Your voice is an instrument, and it needs to
serve the song, to serve the project. You need to find the best way to get the
emotional impact of the song across, and each song is different.
Musicians, at least the ones that I work with, are really pretty egoless
about the music. People might have a hard time believing that, but it really is
true. Like with the "Trio" record -- whoever sang the lead was whoever would
sound best on that particular song, and we all thought the harmony was just as
important as the lead.
So in that environment, it's easy. It's not, "Am I coming off well?", "Do I
have enough time to do this?" It's really about sublimating yourself to the
music, and that's the most important thing.
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