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By Alan Light Special to MSN Music
"Why does it always have to be so segregated?" asks Dan Zanes. "Why is it that kids have their music and
adults have theirs? Can't we find a middle ground that we can all enjoy?"
New Hampshire-born, Brooklyn-based Zanes spent the first part of his career
as a member of the roots-rockers the Del Fuegos, who Rolling Stone named best new band
of 1984. After the birth of his daughter, Anna, he shifted gears and reinvented
himself as a creator of music for the whole family. In the past 10 years, Zanes
has released eight CDs of his own folk-based, cross-cultural spin on children's
and traditional songs, including 2007's Grammy-winning "Catch That Train" and last year's Spanish-themed "Nueva York!."
His latest DVD, "The Fine Friends Are Here," has just been released; filmed
live in his home borough, it's a summary of his past few projects, and
demonstrates the rocking, ramshackle joy of his road-burnished band (as well as
his signature rooster-plume hair and colorful suits). Next month, Zanes follows
with a new album, titled "76 Trombones," in which he turns his attention to
classic songs from Broadway shows. The selections, all owned by Paul McCartney's MPL Music Publishing (who approached
Zanes with the idea), include: "Hello Dolly," featuring guest Carol Channing; "Tomorrow, Manana," from "Annie"; and
Matthew Broderick joining in for "Before the Parade
Passes By."
"After our session," says Zanes, "Carol Channing told me that I remind her of
Louis Armstrong. I felt so hip! And then, about 15
minutes later, her husband came out and said, 'You know who he reminds me of? Barry Manilow!'"
MSN Music: What was the biggest adjustment between playing in a rock
band and playing music for kids?
Dan Zanes: I'd say the biggest adjustment was having to get
up earlier. The spirit of the audience and of this music is really so similar to
what it felt like in the early days of the Del Fuegos. It was so communal; we
didn't consider it a gig if people didn't dance, and that's what we have now.
The audience is such a big part of things, and the sense that we're all in it
together.
Doing this, I really rediscovered the reasons for playing music. As the Del
Fuegos got bigger, it got so disconnected from those things, and so much of the
life went out of it. So I spent a lot of time going to see bluegrass, to hear
music in churches, to dances in Jamaica, places were the music is connected to
the people supporting it and there's no wall separating the music makers from
the audience. After that, I thought I'd never go back to that self-centered pop
life. I didn't know where I'd end up, though, until my daughter was born.
Did it surprise you that all of that led to music for kids?
It did surprise me. I made this cassette of what I thought all-ages music
would be, to give out to families in the neighborhood. I had gone to Tower
Records and looked for some 21st century version of the old Folkways family
music albums, the stuff by Leadbelly and Pete Seeger and Woody Guthrie. First of all, I couldn't even find
those records, they were so hidden away. And then everything I did hear was so
corporate. There is plenty of great family music out there that I found: there's
that great Jerry Garcia and David Grisman record, Tom Chapin, everything Ella Jenkins does is great. But I wasn't hearing the
sound I had in my head.
I was making a solo record, and really nobody cared. They wanted more of this
cassette that I made on a little eight-track at home. I was really happy doing
that stuff. I was better at it. It was more fun. So it was like: Should I keep
singing songs about old girlfriends and drinking, or should I do something I
really like that other people were also liking?
So now you've come all the way around to recording Broadway songs.
How did this project come about? It seems like a slightly different direction
for you.
Sir Paul's company owns the publishing to a lot of Broadway songs. They
called me and asked if I would want to do something with those. At first I
thought, no way; what we do won't sound anything like Broadway, it will just
come out sounding like weird folk music. But they said, no, we want that. So I
started looking at the catalog and thinking: Can we make these songs emotional?
Is there an emotional core to them? And we found tons of emotion in those songs.
I guess the question for me is always: Can we put our hearts into it? Everything
we put our hands on, we put our own spin on.
Your recent albums have all been built around themes: trains,
spirituals. How did something like the "Nueva York!" project develop in your
mind?
I was thinking about how we really are turning into a bilingual community,
and I was learning Spanish and getting excited by that. And also, how ugly the
immigration conversation was getting. There was kind of a political agenda with
that one. Having grown up in the white monoculture of New Hampshire, I could
imagine what it was like for a kid in Nebraska, being told that all these
illegal Mexicans are coming in and taking over, how scary that could sound if
you're little. So I wanted to offer the other side, to show that we're all
hanging out in New York, singing each other's songs, eating food, having a
party. So there was that agenda, but you always gotta keep the fun in it, too.
That record was actually really important in my household because it
was something my son and his baby sitter, who is from Colombia, could listen to
and sing together.
I have heard that a lot, and it really is the ultimate compliment. The name
of the game is shared experience, when music can pull us together. Though I
guess the ultimate compliment would really be if your son and his baby sitter
formed a band together.
Alan Light is the former editor-in-chief of Spin, Vibe and Tracks
magazines and a former senior writer at Rolling Stone. His writing has also
appeared in the New York Times, the New Yorker, GQ and Entertainment Weekly. His
book "The Skills to Pay the Bills: The Story of the Beastie Boys" was published
in 2006. Alan is a two-time winner of the ASCAP-Deems Taylor Award for
excellence in music writing. |